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$13K M2 Helmet
« on: September 26, 2016, 09:11:07 AM »
Not sure if anyone has been watching, but this M2 just sold for $13K.

Beauty of a helmet, with a name. If I had unlimited funds, it would be a nice helmet to add to the collection, but alas, I'm poor.... As a matter of fact, If I tallied up the amount, I may have spent close to that much buying my entire collection.

What's everyone's thoughts on the final hammer price? Would you spend that much on a single helmet?

http://www.ebay.com/itm/WWII-US-ARMY-HELMET-COMPLETE-LINER-ID-CLEAN-ESTATE-ITEM-/201670771761?_trksid=p2047675.l2557&ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT&nma=true&si=UlRX4z4ZNOOiYDDTh%252BwYUFiHZpo%253D&orig_cvip=true&rt=nc
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Re: $13K M2 Helmet
« Reply #1 on: September 26, 2016, 10:36:29 AM »
It's the Holy Grail for all US helmet collectors. It's named and pretty much complete, despite its salty appearance...but that's an awful lot of bread to lay down!!   :o
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Re: $13K M2 Helmet
« Reply #2 on: September 26, 2016, 10:47:53 AM »
Are the M2 a rare commodity then ?? As a non helmet collector I know absolutely nothing about them

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Re: $13K M2 Helmet
« Reply #3 on: September 26, 2016, 11:28:31 AM »
LB,
I would say they're rare, when compared to all other variations of the M1 used at the time.

Other's have sold in the 4 and 5 figure range.


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Re: $13K M2 Helmet
« Reply #4 on: September 26, 2016, 11:49:33 AM »
An expensive cooking pot then ?? ;D
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Re: $13K M2 Helmet
« Reply #5 on: September 26, 2016, 12:00:08 PM »
And wash basin.....it's versatile! I won't mention the other thing we've heard it was used for  :o

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Re: $13K M2 Helmet
« Reply #6 on: September 26, 2016, 12:18:33 PM »
What ?bailing out boats !! ;D
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Re: $13K M2 Helmet
« Reply #7 on: September 26, 2016, 12:30:17 PM »
Are the M2 a rare commodity then ?? As a non helmet collector I know absolutely nothing about them

LB

Yes Carl. It was the original jump-helmet version of the M1 and is therefore much sought after by both Airborne and helmet collectors.
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Re: $13K M2 Helmet
« Reply #8 on: September 26, 2016, 12:37:50 PM »
So what are the main differences between the M2 and M1 ?  ??? :)
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Re: $13K M2 Helmet
« Reply #9 on: September 26, 2016, 12:52:42 PM »
So what are the main differences between the M2 and M1 ?  ??? :)

The M2 shell had what collectors refer to as "D" loops...in other words, rounded rather than square profile fixed bails. This was to enable the extended chinstraps to be more easily pushed back and fastened at the rear. ( These M2 shells are often faked...the swivel or fixed bails are ground off and "D" loops soldered on in their place)  However, the main feature is the Inland airborne liner...a modification of the basic infantry liner with "A" straps and a chin-cup added. Also, there were snaps on each side to secure the liner to the short extensions on the shell's chinstraps. This was intended to prevent separation in the jump.
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Re: $13K M2 Helmet
« Reply #10 on: September 26, 2016, 02:39:07 PM »
Some images of the D loops Ian is referring to, borrowed from an example Anton67 posted from his collection:

http://alliedmilitariaforum.com/index.php?topic=783.0

If you look at the photos in the thread, you'll notice one of the loops had to be soldered back on. These were prone to breaking, necessitating field repairs. This was the reason for them being phased out, eventually replaced with the M1C, which had a swivel loop.

Examples of all three styles of loops:

D Loop

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Fixed Loop

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Re: $13K M2 Helmet
« Reply #11 on: September 26, 2016, 02:47:27 PM »
And here is an Airborne liner with "A" straps compared with a standard infantry liner. The airborne example is a Westinghouse, and would have been used with the M1C, but the design is basically the same.

Chincup used with the M2 would have been constructed of leather, with chamois lining the inner side of the cup, to provide comfort to the paratrooper. Later examples were made of khaki meterial, as shown in the images below.

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Re: $13K M2 Helmet
« Reply #12 on: September 26, 2016, 06:27:49 PM »
Excellent information guys! Thank you for clarifying the differences :)
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Re: $13K M2 Helmet
« Reply #13 on: September 26, 2016, 08:44:22 PM »
   While I take the listing verbiage with a grain of salt, it says it came from an estate sale. So, to answer the question about paying 13k, not in a million years as clearly, they are out there and available. Certainly not as common as a fixed bale or swivel, but there are millions of estate sales, yard sales, junk shops, etc... so opportunities abound!    Scott
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Re: $13K M2 Helmet
« Reply #14 on: September 27, 2016, 05:55:08 AM »
   While I take the listing verbiage with a grain of salt, it says it came from an estate sale. So, to answer the question about paying 13k, not in a million years as clearly, they are out there and available. Certainly not as common as a fixed bale or swivel, but there are millions of estate sales, yard sales, junk shops, etc... so opportunities abound!    Scott

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