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Offline Jerry BB

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Welsh dragon collar badges
« on: January 27, 2016, 12:59:52 PM »
Most of my collection of welsh dragon collar badges, they were used from the late Victorian period into the modern period and have been used by many of the welsh regiments, the Monmouths, Brecknocks, the Glamorgan Imperial Yeomanry, the RWF and of course the Welsh regiment themselves.
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Re: Welsh dragon collar badges
« Reply #1 on: January 27, 2016, 02:41:30 PM »
Adding bigger pix of the RWF bullion collars with silvered dragons, these are pre WWI and are stunning IMO.
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Re: Welsh dragon collar badges
« Reply #2 on: January 27, 2016, 03:07:31 PM »
Beautiful badges..

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Re: Welsh dragon collar badges
« Reply #3 on: January 27, 2016, 10:20:07 PM »
A superb collection Jerry! For the benefit of our TransAtlantic buddies who might not be au fait with the significance of the insignia, perhaps we should point out that it's derived from our national flag Y Ddraig Goch...The Red Dragon.

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Re: Welsh dragon collar badges
« Reply #4 on: January 28, 2016, 12:32:31 AM »
Thanks Ian & Smitty.

Some more as cap badges.

And of course the Welsh Dragon flag as used by 53rd Welsh Division (Note the large red W).


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And a couple of bandmans cross belt buckles for the Monmouths regiment

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Re: Welsh dragon collar badges
« Reply #5 on: January 28, 2016, 08:56:11 AM »
Not a British insignia guy but those are pretty cool looking.  Do both officers and enlisted wear this type or is there a difference?  How far back do these types on insignia go back?

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Re: Welsh dragon collar badges
« Reply #6 on: January 29, 2016, 06:07:25 AM »
Not a British insignia guy but those are pretty cool looking.  Do both officers and enlisted wear this type or is there a difference?  How far back do these types on insignia go back?

Bob

Thanks Bob,

officers tended to wear bronze or silver versions, OR's were white metal or gilded brass.

The use of the Welsh dragon on British army uniforms was introduced in the 19th Century.  The earliest ref I can find is for 1820 when the Dragon was used on the flag of the Glamorgan Yeomanry Cavalry.  Th use of collar badges did not occur until 1881 when the first official use of Dragon collar badges was authorised for the Welsh Regiment.

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Re: Welsh dragon collar badges
« Reply #7 on: January 29, 2016, 06:28:01 AM »
Thanks for the education.  I am sure like anything else you could collect a whole lot of different types from the same unit.  It never ends.
Bob

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Re: Welsh dragon collar badges
« Reply #8 on: January 29, 2016, 11:24:42 PM »
   Fantastic badges! I have always had a soft spot for the dragons! Here in Michigan, the National Guard uses Le'Grifon. Representing the ship of De La Salle lost in Lake Michigan in the late 1600s. Here are a few from units I served in.    Scott.
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Re: Welsh dragon collar badges
« Reply #9 on: January 30, 2016, 12:10:00 AM »
   Fantastic badges! I have always had a soft spot for the dragons! Here in Michigan, the National Guard uses Le'Grifon. Representing the ship of De La Salle lost in Lake Michigan in the late 1600s. Here are a few from units I served in.    Scott.

They look good Scott.

Heres is another one, this time in AA and used by and OTC with links to the old Monmouthshire Regiment. 

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Also my collection of Welsh regimental badges made in AA, which for a long time was not popular with soldiers and collectors but these days are avidly collected and some of the rarer badges fetch hundreds of 's.

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