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DAILY NEWS / Re: B-17 Pilot Robert Shoens was in today
« Last post by littlebuddy on August 22, 2017, 01:57:18 PM »
I hear you Scott !!  I think.i would have probably got stage fright with him !!
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HELMETS / Re: Alleged M1 Helmet Fabrications
« Last post by littlebuddy on August 22, 2017, 01:55:57 PM »
This is shocking to hear  :o.
How much stuff out there is "legit" anymore ??  Im glad i only collect what i do , and am constantly trying to increase my knowledge on my chosen subject so that i can be "fore armed" .

Thank you Eric for bringing this to light

LB
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HELMETS / Re: Alleged M1 Helmet Fabrications
« Last post by Rakkasan187 on August 22, 2017, 10:58:27 AM »
I think there are some good lessons to learn from this whole situation..

Sadly nothing is sacred anymore.. Anyplace where there could be a potential profit to be made, there will be these type of situations...

Glad that the darkness has been brought into the light...

It has really impacted my decisions to still keep collecting. I am very jaded now...

Smitty
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HELMETS / Re: Alleged M1 Helmet Fabrications
« Last post by Masonk on August 22, 2017, 10:42:32 AM »
Thanks Eric,

This topic has fueled a firestorm on the forum and it is still going..

Smitty

Indeed, Smitty. A lot of collectors are heated, some rightfully so. Lot's of unanswered questions, as well, but I won't get into that. I was quite shocked that he came back, and provided a response.
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HELMETS / Re: Alleged M1 Helmet Fabrications
« Last post by Rakkasan187 on August 22, 2017, 06:43:32 AM »
Thanks Eric,

This topic has fueled a firestorm on the forum and it is still going..

Smitty

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HELMETS / Re: Alleged M1 Helmet Fabrications
« Last post by Masonk on August 21, 2017, 09:33:07 AM »
Here is the helmet that led to the discovery, with similarities circled in red. The last photo shows the liner in the original helmet, followed by the liner in a different helmet, which was sold on Jamie's website. Jamie's response to the Shelton helmet was that he believed it to be a fabrication before it came into his possession. This explains why he would alter what some would already consider to be a valuable/collectible helmet.

His response to his actions below:

"First thing, the Shelton helmet. I believe to be a fake from the get go after further inspection. I noticed, the buttons on the straps looked crimped like the ones where people add non factory snaps to straps as well as the fluff that comes though. After looking at the feet to me it started its life as a fixed bail. Also the style of the name i have seen before on other helmets of a specific collector, who originally was excluded from the chain of ownership when I first got the helmet. I have sent all the info on that to one of the admins, as to not seem like I am trying to shift blame on anyone else.
 
Second returns. No, Paypal is not forcing me to refund anyone, with my site I use another company other than paypal, so they have no say in what I have refunded thus far. Also I gave a screenshot of what I have refunded so far to the same admin mentioned as proof with more to come when its applicable. But in a few cases, I have been contacted about lids that I had nothing to do with if fake or are real and those will not be refunded.
 
Lastly, as for an explanation, lets be honest, is there really anything I could put here thats not going to make a few people here who like to just be confrontational no matter what? What I will say, is that I originally was asked to paint some helmet for other people, since I could paint, and I did a few for vets as well, and it just got out of control and for that I'm sorry."
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HELMETS / Alleged M1 Helmet Fabrications
« Last post by Masonk on August 21, 2017, 09:15:55 AM »
All,
While I typically wouldn't post a link to a thread on another forum, I think this is an important read for any and all M1 Helmet collectors.

Quick backstory:

I well established (and to some considered an authority in the field), helmet collector/dealer was recently outed as allegedly producing and selling high end M1 helmets. This individual is Jamie Kashetta, known to some as Jkash23686.

Jamie would allegedly take unpainted helmets, and add TAC markings or camouflage to enhance their value (mostly vesicant paint), in some cases by thousands of dollars. He was discovered when a helmet, specifically a d-loop with attribution to a Lt. Joseph Shelton, previously in his possession, suddenly reappeared with a new camo paint job. In addition, the previously included Westinghouse Airborne liner had been replaced with a more valuable Inland Airborne liner. The Westinghouse liner was then sold with another helmet.

Jamie is apparently refunding those he allegedly defrauded, however these helmets are still out there. Now I would hope those collectors will do the right thing and destroy those helmets, or at least mark them in some way so others know they are fabrications. Still, though, it's always possible for them to make it onto the open market (sold as a reproduction, lost in a move, passing of the individual).

The thread has many photos pulled from Jamie's Instagram account, his website and his Facebook page. Not implying that all are fabrications, as some have a chain of custody that predates Jamie acquiring them, however you may want to make note of all of them, most notably those that appear to have a vesicant paint camo scheme.

http://www.usmilitariaforum.com/forums/index.php?/topic/280711-m2-of-lt-joseph-shelton-505th-pir/
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DAILY NEWS / Re: USS Indianapolis Found!
« Last post by ScottG on August 19, 2017, 10:43:23 PM »
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DAILY NEWS / USS Indianapolis Found!
« Last post by ScottG on August 19, 2017, 10:38:31 PM »
   It's true this time. Here is the survivors press release.   Scott



FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE -- AUGUST 19, 2017

 

USS Indianapolis Survivors React to the Discovery of their Sunken Ship in the Philippine Sea

 



On August 18th, the Research Vessel (R/V) Petrel identified the final resting place of the USS Indianapolis (CA-35) more than three miles below the surface of the Philippine Sea, bringing up bittersweet feelings for those affected by the ship's sinking in the final days of World War II.

 

The wreck site is the final resting place for more than half of the final sailing crew assigned to the WWII heavy cruiser, according to official Naval records.

 

With the assistance of the US Navy and NOAA, the Vulcan team, backed by Microsoft cofounder, Paul Allen, led the expedition aboard R/V Petrel.

 

USS Indianapolis Survivor, and Vice-chairman of the Survivors' organization, Dick Thelen, 90, was absolutely surprised by the news that his ship had been located.  "I never thought I'd see this day come!.  I'm glad it was found."

 

Coxswain Louis "Kayo" Erwin, survivor of the Indianapolis who served aboard the ship for 2 and a half years prior to the sinking, was happy to hear the good news.  "I saw a lot of action on that ship", having been part of most of the 10 battle stars she earned throughout WWII.  "I'm very very proud of my service, and I'm happy to hear she's finally been found.  This is wonderful news!

 

The ship's dentist, Lt. Cmdr. Earl Henry, was lost during the sinking.  His son, Earl Henry Jr. is "grateful that Paul Allen has gone to such great lengths to locate the USS Indianapolis, which our family regards as my father's burial site," and that "My wife and I were not expecting the emotional reaction we experienced this morning when we received the news that the Indianapolis had been found."   

 

The Indianapolis served President Roosevelt as ship of state, and Admiral Spruance as the 5th Fleet flagship in WWII.  She fought gallantly through many campaigns, earning ten battle stars. Her final top secret mission was to carry parts of the first atomic bomb used in combat to a U.S. air base on Tinian.  Just a few nights later, on July 30th,1945 she fell prey to a Japanese submarine.  In the next twelve minutes of fire and chaos, about 330 of her crew would be lost with the ship, and the rest--some 880 men--would be left alone in the Pacific in the middle of the night.  For the next 5 days, without food or water, the crew battled the elements, dodged shark attacks, and clung to life as best they could.

 

Her sinking led to the greatest single loss of life at sea in the history of the U.S. Navy. Of the 1,196 sailors and marines on board, only 317 survived. There are 19 remaining survivors alive today.

 

Amongst a large debris field, the crew of the R/V Petrel has discovered a portion of the bow, and has used a remotely operated vehicle to collect video of several identifying features, confirming the identity of the USS Indianapolis (CA-35). They will continue to survey the site, which they are treating with respect as a war grave.

 

This is the latest wreck discovery for Paul Allen's team.  "We try to do these both as really exciting examples of underwater archaeology, and as tributes to the brave men that went down with the ships."

 

The discovery of the USS Indianapolis closes a chapter in US Naval History that has remained open for decades, finally giving resolution to the surviving crew, and to more than 800 families who lost loved ones aboard the fated cruiser.  According to Earl Henry, "There will be a lot of crying today among families of the lost-at-sea but hopefully it will eventually lead to some closure." 

 

Of the 1,196 men who served aboard the ship, 39 men formed the Marine Detachment.  Only 9 survived the sinking, and one still lives today.  Edgar Harrell, the sole remaining Marine survivor was elated to hear the news. “Praise the Lord!  Tomorrow is my anniversary and this is the best anniversary present I could have received!"

 For more information regarding the USS Indianapolis, or to speak with members of the Survivors Organization, contact:

 

Captain Bill Toti, USN (Ret)
 Honorary USS Indianapolis Survivor
 (214) 620-8070
bill.toti@gmail.com


 Sara Vladic
 USS Indianapolis Historian and Honorary Survivor
 (310) 270-8872
Sara@FilmsBySerendipity.com


 Kim Roller
 USS Indianapolis Honorary Survivor
 (360) 292-9659
ww2kim@gmail.com


 Peggy Campo
 Daughter of Survivor, Donald McCall & Survivor's Org. Secretary
 (217) 377-9783
pcampo@yahoo.com

 

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ADVERSARY ARTIFACTS / Re: Kriegsmarine Soldbuch in today
« Last post by Rakkasan187 on August 19, 2017, 03:53:27 PM »
Scott,

Are there any references to the Sailor receiving any awards or decorations and what are some of the Flak units assigned to..

Smitty
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